Forum Activity for @Joseph Patrick Williams

Joseph Patrick Williams
@Joseph Patrick Williams
11/12/10 18:15:08
3 posts

toffee (i know this is not chocolate, i figure somone has some experience)


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

thank you for your reply. its easy to tell its separated because the butter is on top of everything else and im not able to get it combined again. i am on contract not to give out recipes but i will do my best. first i melt butter, then add sugar and salt and water. cook at med, med-low stirring frequently until 305 degrees. take off heat and stir in vanilla. pour onto parchment paper, let cool. now,.. i have been trying to make big batches and i dont think that would make a difference but i dunno. thx.
Sebastian
@Sebastian
11/12/10 15:34:15
754 posts

toffee (i know this is not chocolate, i figure somone has some experience)


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

How in the world can you tell if it's separating while cooking? Halfway through cooking, it should be a molten, bubbly mess that's impossible to determine if it's an emulsion or not 8-) describe your recipe, and your production in as much detail as possible, and describe when and how you determine it's separated pls...
Joseph Patrick Williams
@Joseph Patrick Williams
11/12/10 13:34:56
3 posts

toffee (i know this is not chocolate, i figure somone has some experience)


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

hello, its joe from blissful brownies again with another question. this time im making english toffee, andhaving problems with my butter separating from the toffeeabout halfwaythrough the cooking process. i have no idea why this is happening.toffee is somthing i have never done. i know this is not a chocolate question, but i figure someone has had toffee experience.

P.S. thankyou all for your tips on my chocolate enrobing issues last week.


updated by @Joseph Patrick Williams: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/13/10 01:45:08
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Oh, 10lbs that I can digest (excuse the pun). Not 10kgs.... Yes, that sounds right. 4.5kg in an hour sounds right. Thanks
Brad Churchill
@Brad Churchill
11/13/10 00:49:37
527 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I'm not sure about your calcs. However the white ACMC tempering machines hold about 10 lbs of chocolate, and use two clear 110 watt light bulbs for heat, and no fan to circulate the air while heating. They melt the chocolate and heat it to 123 degrees F from our ambient room temperature of 64 degrees F, in almost exactly one hour. It then takes almost exactly one hour to run the machine through the rest of it's tempering cycle.Like I said, my staff do this every morning, and do it with several of these machines at a time.Interestingly enough, it takes almost the same time to cycle through the dark chocolate as it does the milk chocolate with those machines. The milk does however take a few minutes longer for each cycle.
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/13/10 00:31:57
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

0.52 cal/g is that calories/g? Is that the unit of measue I want I would of thought it would be expressed in J/g? T
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/13/10 00:24:24
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks for that.... 10kg or 22lbs in 1hr with 440W. Wow. My calcs must be out. 22lbs of chocolate in an hour is a lot. I get the drift re losses but for now I must assume negligible losses. Thanks Brad.
Brad Churchill
@Brad Churchill
11/12/10 22:15:08
527 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Call me a luddite here, but wouldn't other variables come into play? I'm thinking variables such as:1. Heat loss created by the space and air flow between the heating element and the medium containing the chocolate, OR in the case of water being the medium carrying the heat (which is the case in almost all commercial chocolate equipment), how much energy is required to bring the water up to the correct temperature, and keep it there, and what is the rate of loss/transfer from the water, through the holding vessel, and to the Chocolate?2. What is the medium the chocolate is being held in?3. Does the medium reflect heat, or absorb heat. (In this case, think of simple table top tempering units that utilize a steel bowl and lightbulbs as a heat source. There's a reason the back of the bowls are all painted flat black.4. What form is the chocolate in? Is it in a big block, or is it in small chips?5. How much of that surface is actually in direct contact with the heat. The larger the surface contact with the heat source, the quicker the melt.I've melted enough chocolate in the last two years to say definitively that I can melt 10kg of chocolate in one hour with four 110 watt lightbulbs. My staff do that almost every morning.In my experience, sometimes "let's try a number of variations and see what happens" works a lot better than a calculator....just my two bits, and maybe some food for thought.Brad.
Sebastian
@Sebastian
11/12/10 15:28:47
754 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I ran a quick test today on some milk chocolate i had handy. I won't give any specifics on it's formulation, but at 19C - 1589 J/KgC (or 0.378 Btu/lbF). If I were you, I'd increase that a bit for your chocolate.
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/12/10 08:56:32
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Well lets see
I want to heat a 10kg slab of chocolate from 20C to 40C, using a 500W element
Specific Heat Capacity of Chocolate = 0.5cal/g
10kg = 10,000g


Formula to find J (ouls) or Energy require as j
j = m x Cg x (T final - T initial)

Mass 10000g
Cg 0.5
Temp Final 45
Temp Initial 20
Temp Diff 25

= 125000j or 125kj
Factor: 1 Wh = 3.6 kJ

125/3.6 = 34.7222wh

34.722/500 = 4.16664h

4.16hr to melt 10kg of Chocolate with a 500W element.... does this sound right? Anyone
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/12/10 06:23:17
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Sabastian, Thank you very much. (especially for the average) I was half expecting an answer like you began without an answer ar the end) I see youre a practical man. Thanks Tony
Sebastian
@Sebastian
11/12/10 04:31:31
754 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

it gets complicated rather quickly - it's formulation dependent (ie how much cocoa butter you have will directly impact it). drilling down to cocoa butter, since cocoa butter's triglyceride profile is different all around the world, each butter's specific heat will be different. and then you overlay the impact of tempering and crystal form (each of the 6 different forms have their own specific heat...). So there's no quick and easy answer if you're looking for an accurate number 8-)The easiest thing to do, in my opinion, is average cocoa butter - a good ballpark figure for liquid cocoa butter at 40C would be, oh, about 0.5 cal/g. If you need to estimate SH in solid form, i'd start with 0.52 cal/g (20C, assuming predominance of form V).
Anthony Lange
@Anthony Lange
11/11/10 20:09:32
34 posts

Specific heat capacity of chocolate


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Do you know what the specific heat capacity of chocolate is?

This figure is so important for anyone wanting to make chocolate machinery and yet I havent been able to find it anywhere. So, If you can help, Much Appreciated T


updated by @Anthony Lange: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Sebastian
@Sebastian
11/09/10 15:19:35
754 posts

Shelf Life


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It will absolutely oxidize. General principles for storage are the same as for chocolate - minimize exposure to heat, oxygen, and light. When it goes bad, you'll be able to taste it. It won't be dangerous, just won't have flavors you'll like. I recently had a container of Chef Rubber white butter turn on me.
Sue
@Sue
11/08/10 19:10:33
1 posts

Shelf Life


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Is there a shelf life to colored cocoa butter and can colored cocoa butter go bad? Or does it just bloom? Is there any special way I should store it? thanks

updated by @Sue: 04/11/25 09:27:36
peter guppy
@peter guppy
11/08/10 12:49:48
3 posts

Mint crystals in chocolate


Posted in: Uncategorized

Hi

I am trying to source/make mint crystals that i can use in chocolate slab/thins. Im guessing this is created by flavouring sugar with mint but would appreciate advice from more experianced members.

As Im based in UK would be looking for UK supplier.

All help much appreciated.

Peter


updated by @peter guppy: 04/10/15 17:13:43
Casey
@Casey
01/01/11 12:11:17
54 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

The only great Fairtrade chocolate is Theo. If we are including Rainforest Alliance, then Cacaoyere as well. I think that bothof these occupy a new place, their own category, perhaps, of mass marketproduct that holds enough of the fine chocolate ingredients, and doesn't flubit up too much, can be great chocolate in its own right, and is still accessibleto a wide range. Not quite as good as those in some ways, but a perfectly respectableRainforest chocolate, is Kallari.

I think it can almost be comparing apples in oranges to say if any of these are worth the Bonnat/Domori/ Amano type or not... I prefer totaste either Cacaoyere or Theo, even the Kallari, in addition to a couple from Republica delCacao, and some by Slitti, El Rey, or even Santander, to most chocolates byValrhona, for example. None of these last are Fairtrade or Rainforest certified,though, but they do belong to a category I see as the best industrial chocolates,they are more sophisticated and interesting than the Callebaut level, to besure. I've been talking about a bunch of this stuff on my blog as of late,where I've also occasionally bitched and moaned about Fairtrade, etc...

Langdon Stevenson
@Langdon Stevenson
12/28/10 23:54:58
51 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Frank,

Your lack of sympathy for, and understanding of poor cash crop farmers (and what motivates them) seems as limited as your lack of understanding of what Fair Trade is and why it exists, (and what can be achieved with "bulk" forastero cocoa).

Some of the best cocoa I have ever tasted (properly fermented and dried, with strong chocolate aroma and other flavour notes) is forastero cocoa produced by isolated, uneducated South Pacific farmers. Those people are literally forced to accept low prices for their cocoa (because the buyers work together to keep the price to growers down) despite its high quality.

So to say that poor grows who seek Fair Trade certification:

"try the argument of "look I am poor, I should make some more money""

... is arrogant and wrong and neatly deflects responsibility for the problem (their poverty) from the people who actually cause it (that is us in the developed nations of the world).

What Fair Trade is actually saying is: "These people deserve to get a living wage for the work that they do and it is our responsibility to pay ".

It's also wrong to say that Fair Trade (with all of its acknowledged flaws) just trades off the story of poverty. Fair Trade is meant to be a safety net for poor people that prevents exploitation. It's not intended to be a driver of quality, or quantity of product. How first world manufacturers choose to use the Fair Trade story of their product has nothing do to with the farmers who rely on it in an attempt to get a fair income from their labour.

I will agree with Duffy's post above. Power imbalances (like in the English milk industry which is also happening in Australia) are not the fault of the farmer. And dismissing Fair Trade for its efforts to try to restore some balance in poor nations is wrong.

Langdon

Anna Bonavita
@Anna Bonavita
11/14/10 20:46:01
4 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Hi Clay,Perhaps my comment is quite naive but what about Theo? I remember they got a couple of Academy of Chocolate awards...
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
11/13/10 11:25:54
55 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

It's always going to be tough for farmers - and it isn't always because they are poor, uneducated or whatever we blithely assume on their behalfs. Here in the UK milk farmers sell milk at below production cost to the supermarkets - and find themselves powerless to do much about it. Some sell direct at Farmers Markets, at the gate or add value by producing artisan cheese, ice cream and so on. Not everyone can do this. Net result is dairy farmers going out of business at a steadily increasing rate and big (cheap) imports of milk from around the world.This is in prosperous, educated, organised England. It seems all we can do is vote with our wallets - don't buy supermarket milk, don't buy bulk chocolate, pay more for quality cocoa beans. It feels like we have no power but it depends how many there are. Fairtrade is a way for the consumer to feel like they are making that (slightly tougher) choice and heling in some small way. As a movement it is to be applauded but it isn't the whole answer.DuffyRed Star Chocolate
Frank Homann
@Frank Homann
11/13/10 10:27:35
2 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Clay,Agreed. Being a business man, I think the whole issue is around supplier power vs. buyer power. I think the big chocolate manufacturers can get away with paying too low prices for cocoa because suppliers are disperse and relatively un-sophisticated. Also, of course, because suppliers have not been able to differentiate their cocoa products -- here is a great opportunity with "fine cocoa". Once consumers learn to distinguish different flavours and look for a more sophisticated product, then there is a opportunity for suppliers to gain power. Today, even in gourmet chocolates with 70% cacao, the cost of the cocoa represents less than 20% of retail price, often less than 10%. Probably quite out of balance if compared to other gourmet food products, where the raw materials represent a higher percentage.My five cents. :)Frank
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/13/10 08:16:38
1,696 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Frank -Some very good arguments. I especially like the analogy to encouraging farmers to make a business out of being poor.A focus on improving quality is what's needed - but then mass market chocolate makers really don't want to support programs that would drive up their costs significantly. They are in a real Catch-22 here.:: Clay
Frank Homann
@Frank Homann
11/12/10 07:41:27
2 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

There probably arent good chocolates with fair trade beans. The logic is this: If you have fine cocoa beans, which you need to make great chocolate, you get a substantial premium from that. You dont need fair trade premiums that are often quite moderate. Fair trade is sought by cocoa producers who dont have a good product (forastero "bulk" beans) but would like to make some more money. So as quality cant be used as an argument for getting more money, they try the argument of "look I am poor, I should make some more money". In my opinion, this is actually detrimental to development. You teach poor farmers that they should make a business out of being poor, rather than focus on making a better quality product (or increase productivity). That way they stay poor. Which of course is good for the people in the developed world who make a living of being in NGOs, promoting "fair trade". Harsh? Well, perhaps, but actually true if you think about it.
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
11/05/10 14:33:57
63 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

How about Vintage Plantations?
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/05/10 10:36:06
1,696 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Kristina:Thanks for pointing this out to me. I recently purchased some Zotter bars and did not notice the Fair Trade logo on them I will have to search and see.:: Clay
Kristina
@Kristina
11/05/10 00:40:11
21 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Clay,even if it probably won't be a big help for you - Zotter works with FLO cerfified beans. They make lots of filled bars selling them in organic supermarkets, but their Loboko bars (Panama, Nicaragua for instance) are not mass-market.Just an idea...
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
11/04/10 06:25:40
1,696 posts

Is there such a thing as GREAT Fair Trade chocolate?


Posted in: Opinion

Along with ChocolateLife member Sunita de Tourreil, I am giving a presentation to a group at the World Bank next week.

Having just come back from the Salon du Chocolat two days ago and taking a look there, I was wondering if anyone knows of a truly world-class chocolate made with FLO Fair Trade certified beans.

Equal Exchange, Alter Eco, Divine, etc., all make certified chocolates but I don't know anyone who puts them in the same class as Bonnat, Amedei, Domori, Askiniosie, Amano, et al.

There are very large companies making certified chocolate but that's all mass-market chocolate-like substance, IMO.

Any thoughts?

updated by @Clay Gordon: 04/10/15 16:47:11
Carlos Eichenberger
@Carlos Eichenberger
11/04/10 15:46:19
158 posts

Preservatives for longer shelf life


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I don't believe adding glucose to a nut-based filling will help much. There's very little free water in a confection like that to begin with.The shelf life of ganaches, on the other hand, will greatly benefit from products like invert sugar, glucose, alcohols and acids.A good reference is chef Peter Grewelling's book Chocolates and Confections: Formula, Theory, and Technique for the Artisan Confectioner
Omar Forastero
@Omar Forastero
11/04/10 06:00:29
86 posts

Preservatives for longer shelf life


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am doing a consultancy for a chocolate store owner who is looking at adding preservatives to his fillings. Although this is totally against my chocolate religion, I was wondering where I can get info regarding preservatives? What kind suits best each filling without greatly affecting the taste...

I also wonder, will the addition of glucose to a nut based filling (gianduja/praline) help increase the shelf life?


updated by @Omar Forastero: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Nat
@Nat
11/05/10 16:18:30
75 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Ha! That's hilarious Seneca! Thanks for posting that.I guess you could make most edible liquids solid at room temp by putting them in cocoa butter but it seems like a pain since you have to temper it then too.
Seneca Klassen
@Seneca Klassen
11/04/10 00:07:51
17 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Speaking of other non-chocolate things to do with cocoa butter: http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/01/dave-arnold-makes-chocolate-ketchup.html
Nat
@Nat
11/03/10 12:43:28
75 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I just bought one of these and their Sundrop truffles with sunflower seed honey filling since the recommendations were so high for all their chocolate. I talked to Elizabeth on the phone and she was able to do lower-cost USPS flat rate shipping on request. Looking forward to trying it!
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
11/02/10 22:18:49
63 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Pretty certain you'll have to temper the bar- cocoa butter is a big part of it.
deborah2
@deborah2
11/02/10 19:22:35
25 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

What an interesting concept! I just ordered one myself ($7 shipping to here) and may also try making it, depending on how I like hers. Cafe au lait might be nice. I wonder if you have to temper it before molding?
Sarah Hart
@Sarah Hart
11/02/10 13:40:04
63 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

I have had Sahagun's Kapow bar and it is excellent. Worth every penny.
Scott
@Scott
11/02/10 10:08:55
44 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Yes. Ingredients are cocoa butter, coffee, and sugar. Tastefulness and execution are excellent. Montes set the standard by which imitators will be judged. It's up to you, of course, but $15 seems like a small price to pay for a product you're considering reverse-engineering.
Nat
@Nat
11/02/10 03:47:09
75 posts

Sahagun Coffee Bar


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Not achocolate bar, but made in the same vein, has anyone tried Sahagun's coffee bar in Portland? I'd like to try it, or try making my own, but not really willing to pay the $10 shipping for a $5 bar if it's not amazing.

Anyone know what's in it besides coffee? I was talking with a coffee researcher here in Hawaii about making one of these, but he thinks the coffee oils would behave sodifferently from cocoa butter, that it would be hard for it to work.


updated by @Nat: 04/10/15 11:13:12
Ellas Sweet Shoppe
@Ellas Sweet Shoppe
11/01/10 13:19:53
1 posts

Ella's Sweet Shoppe


Posted in: Allow Me to Introduce Myself

Hello The Chocolate Life.

Nice to be a member. Thanks.

Were a big candy store in GA. We carry everything sweet.

24 flavors of 100% pure Gourmet Italiano Gelato

Artisan Chocolates

5000 different bulk & packaged candies

100+ Soda pops and more.

Check us out if your in Georgia sometime or heres our website so you can see pics & vids:

www.EllasSweetShoppe.com

thanks.


updated by @Ellas Sweet Shoppe: 04/16/15 05:20:48
Hilmir Kolbeins
@Hilmir Kolbeins
11/02/10 17:24:41
28 posts

Chocolate class


Posted in: News & New Products Press

I was planning to do the exact same thing you suggested. But thanks for the help.
Mark Heim
@Mark Heim
11/02/10 16:55:24
101 posts

Chocolate class


Posted in: News & New Products Press

Best way I've found, make the samples for your own practice, and see what you comfortably needed.
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